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Thread Engagement

thread-engagementThis is a difficult question to answer. Depending on your application, the answer could be anywhere from 1/2 engagement, up to having two full threads extend beyond the nut. Look at these conflicting answers found in four separate technical publications.

  1. Federal Highway Administration, “Guidelines for the Installation, Inspection, Maintenance and Repair of Structural Supports for Highway Signs, Luminaires and Traffic Signals.” Section 16.3.1.2 Anchor Rods
  2. Industrial Fasteners Institute, Joe Greenslade, Director of Engineering Technology.
    • “How Many Threads Should Be Beyond The Nut?. The answer is: A minimum of two thread pitches should extend beyond the top surface of the nut.”
  3. RCSC (Research Council for Structural Connections) Specification for Structural Joints Using ASTM A325 or A490 Bolts 2.3.2. Geometry
    • “Heavy-hex structural bolt dimensions shall meet the requirements of ANSI/ASME B18.2.6. The bolt length used shall be such that the end of the bolt extends beyond or is at least flush with the outer face of the nut when properly installed.”
    • https://www.boltcouncil.org/files/2009RCSCSpecification.pdf
  4. AISC Design Guide1 Page 10 Section 2.11.3
  5. AISC Steel Construction Manual, 13th Edition, Section 14-10
    • “Adequate thread engagement for anchor rods is identical to the condition described in the RCSC Specification as adequate for steel to steel structural joints using high strength bolts: having the end of the [anchor rod] flush with or outside the face of the nut”

So we are left a little confused…..which is it? The answer is, it depends. All joints are not created equal. Tightening an A325 structural bolt on a bridge may have different requirements than tightening the nut on an anchor bolt for a traffic signal pole. Some screw and bolt specifications allow for one or more incomplete threads on the point end of the bolt to allow for easier mating, while others do not. Structural bolts like A325s or A490s have a limited thread length, so having too many threads stick out may mean that the nut is engaging into the thread run out and may not be able to develop the full strength needed. Conversely, not enough stick out may leave threads exposed in the shear plane, which may not be desirable. The safest answer is to consult with the project engineer on your job, to assure all variables that are specific to your job are taken into consideration.

28 thoughts on “Thread Engagement”

  1. Nut loosening means that its function is lost and is a matter of time for serious failure, especially in a vibrating structure. So more threads extension, offer no further safety. Most probably stud or mounting will break due to the excess vibration.

  2. It is quite simple the size of the nut is sized to the diameter of the stud to withstand the tensile forces expected. The stud must extend beyond the nut otherwise the nut will not be exerting it’s calculated holding power because the end thread at least will tend to collapse the last threads as they have no support behind them.
    The rule of thumb is 1 to 11/2 thread beyond the nut.

    1. @Hessin- We can easily manufacture a 1-1/2 x 7″ A325 structural bolt. but the F3125/A325 standard only covers bolts up to 1-1/2″, so a 2″ diameter bolt would need to be manufactured to a different standard like A449 or A354 gr.BC.

  3. In Australia, Australian Standard AS 4100 for Assembly of Steel Structures. identifies that for bolted connections section 14.3.6.1 Requires that one full thread is visible above the nut when selecting a bolt length and one full thread and the thread run out should be visible after tightening.
    The application is for the erection of structural steel, such as would be used in buildings, bridges etc.
    AS requirement is stated as a minimum, best practice for structural bolts is generally regarded as 2.5-3 threads past the nut after being tightened.

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